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01-05-2009, 05:25 PM
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#191 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dustinkinney
I guess my Preference is: If he plays Nf6, then e5! (because it reserves the Bishop move, i'm indecisive about Bd2 or Bg5) and then followed up by the plan in the last game, I posted. And then, We need to re-protect the e5 pawn, if pushed, with f4 because the d4 pawn is a "weak defender", and c5 is likely to be played. And then Protect, Protect, Protect our Space advantadge, hopeing that Black won't open up and take advantadge of his extra move, we did for the Space Advantadge on his king-side. Also, Qg4 becomes possible after he develops his king-side Bishop attacking the weak g7 pawn. This plan, while not perfect, I find reasonable, and does have winning chances!!!! (After we survive the opening and middle game) And then when development is complete, then Attack, Attack, Attack! This is what I call the "insaine strategy" because it goes against intuition of keeping the tension in the center, instead grabbing Space.
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If 3. ... Nf6 why not 4. Bg5 dustinkinney? In the event of 4. ... Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 we can play 6. Bxe7 and follow with 7. f4 just as easily, that bishop helps black more than it does white in my opinion. 7. Qg4 is also a respectable line by the way.
If you're interested in going for the attack, the Alekhine-Chatard attack would be a good choice 3. ... Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 6. h4. I'm not sure whether we should play the ACA, maybe someone can shed some light on GM Akobian's track record against the ACA?
I'm most curious whether he grabs the pawn, if so also what he does against Qd3 rather than Nh3-Nf4, or 'declines'.
In my experience Bd2 comes into play only if you're in one of those Bb4 lines like the MacCutcheon and Winawer (for the record, I have seen GM Akobian play the MacCutcheon).
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White:
- Ruy Lopez
- Sicilian Defense: Chekhover variation, Rossolimo variation, 2. ... e6 3. d4
- French Defense: Bogo-Winawer variation, Alekhine-Chatard attack
- Pirc Defense: Byrne variation
Black:
- Ruy Lopez: Modern Steinitz variation
- Two Knights Defense: Fritz variation, Ulvestadt variation
- King's Gambit: Falkbeer Countergambit: Nimzowitsch variation
- Tarrasch Defense
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01-05-2009, 05:51 PM
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#192 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Perseus
If 3. ... Nf6 why not 4. Bg5 dustinkinney? In the event of 4. ... Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 we can play 6. Bxe7 and follow with 7. f4 just as easily, that bishop helps black more than it does white in my opinion. 7. Qg4 is also a respectable line by the way.
If you're interested in going for the attack, the Alekhine-Chatard attack would be a good choice 3. ... Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 6. h4. I'm not sure whether we should play the ACA, maybe someone can shed some light on GM Akobian's track record against the ACA?
I'm most curious whether he grabs the pawn, if so also what he does against Qd3 rather than Nh3-Nf4, or 'declines'.
In my experience Bd2 comes into play only if you're in one of those Bb4 lines like the MacCutcheon and Winawer (for the record, I have seen GM Akobian play the MacCutcheon).
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I don't like "Trading Pieces" in this Position. Let's make Black Cramped. And feel it too (with his pieces). But, you are right, both variations are "reasonable" i did consider them.
Also, I was considering f3 with a delayed Blackmar-Diemer Gambit (but, alas, not against him!) And I don't like Bd3, either!
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01-05-2009, 08:12 PM
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#193 (permalink)
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GM Akobian Plays: 3. ..dxe4

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01-05-2009, 08:51 PM
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#194 (permalink)
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Signature? I don't need no stinking signature.
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01-05-2009, 08:56 PM
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#195 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ketchuplover
I vote 4.Nxe4
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Might be best!...
I concur, and vote: 4. Nxe4.
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"Players who fail to study tactics systematically tend to suffer from tactical blind-spots that plague them throughout their playing career, and thus they fail to realize their full potential." GM John Nunn.
Chess is 99 percent tactics. - Teichmann
Chess is 99% tactics - Alexei Shirov
"I absolutely agree with the well-known maxim: 'Chess is 99% tactics." GM Susan Polgar
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01-05-2009, 09:34 PM
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#196 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by planetchess.org
Might be best!...
I concur, and vote: 4. Nxe4.
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I'll go with what I've always played, I vote 4. Nxe4..
Vote tally:
4. Nxe4 (3)
Announcements:
- White to move, first round of voting. This round of voting ends sunday january 11th. The second round (if necessary) opens the 11th and closes tuesday the 13th.
That is all.
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White:
- Ruy Lopez
- Sicilian Defense: Chekhover variation, Rossolimo variation, 2. ... e6 3. d4
- French Defense: Bogo-Winawer variation, Alekhine-Chatard attack
- Pirc Defense: Byrne variation
Black:
- Ruy Lopez: Modern Steinitz variation
- Two Knights Defense: Fritz variation, Ulvestadt variation
- King's Gambit: Falkbeer Countergambit: Nimzowitsch variation
- Tarrasch Defense
Last edited by Perseus; 01-05-2009 at 09:40 PM..
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01-05-2009, 09:59 PM
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#197 (permalink)
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Are there any other possiblilites to seriously consider besides Nxe4?
I must admit, I will probably vote for this move - 99% ; however, i just want to know if f3 or any other threatening or gambiting moves deserve priority?
The key thing we need is a PLAN. A position without one is a losing idea. So, after Nxe4, what if Nf6? does he tempo our knight, do we trade, or protect it?
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01-05-2009, 10:25 PM
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#198 (permalink)
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In the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit, after 1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3 exf3 5. Nxf3, black does statistically worse after 5. ... e6 than any other common 5th moves, according to a very large book I have about the BDG. If we play 4. f3 exf3 5. Nxf3 Nf6 here, then we've transposed into that position.
In the main BDG, the best way for black to decline it is with e5 anyway, so he'll be a tempo down if he tries that, since he already played e6. If he declines with 4. ... Nf6, I think we're good taking with 5. fxe4 with a strong center. But if he accepts the gambit pawn on f3, does he have to play Nf6 next? Are there better moves?
Anyway, I'd rather play the white side of the BDG than the Rubenstein French, so I'll vote for 4. f3 here. If we transpose into that main line, I promise to pull out my BDG book to look up the details of the theory and lead the charge.
--Fromper
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01-05-2009, 10:27 PM
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#199 (permalink)
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4. f3 is an option, as far as I know, it only scores about half as well as Nxe4... I don't feel comfortable handing GM Akobian one of our pawns..
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White:
- Ruy Lopez
- Sicilian Defense: Chekhover variation, Rossolimo variation, 2. ... e6 3. d4
- French Defense: Bogo-Winawer variation, Alekhine-Chatard attack
- Pirc Defense: Byrne variation
Black:
- Ruy Lopez: Modern Steinitz variation
- Two Knights Defense: Fritz variation, Ulvestadt variation
- King's Gambit: Falkbeer Countergambit: Nimzowitsch variation
- Tarrasch Defense
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01-05-2009, 10:38 PM
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#200 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Perseus
4. f3 is an option, as far as I know, it only scores about half as well as Nxe4... I don't feel comfortable handing GM Akobian one of our pawns..
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Is The Game Fundamentally about a Pawn?
I would like to see Fromper's Analysis here. Show us some lines. And then, I'll vote, one way or the other. Bring out your book where Black plays e6! Personally, I've always been more adventurous, at heart.
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