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  • #16
    To play for the ICCF you must join the affiliate in whatever country you live in (assuming they are affiliated). In the US you must be a member of the CCLA. If you do not have an OTB rating you can estimate it by “class.” Play is using post cards, e-mail or the ICCF server. Note on post card play: you will probably end up playing a fair number of people in prison because they do not have access to the internet. The last prisoner I played got released during our game. He was in for armed robbery. After release he got a job in a gun factory.

    IECC membership is free and is played by e-mail only. You can estimate your rating or they will accept an official rating (OTB or CC). Note: it may take a long time for tournaments to fill up because playing strictly by e-mail is not all that popular these days. In fact that is why IECG closed up at the end of last December. Use of one of the free programs to track send/receive dates and accumulated time is recommended.

    Another site, the one IECG transferred all memberships to in December, called Lechinicher SchachServer is server-based and it can also take a long time for tournaments to fill up. LSS has no rules against engine use and everybody uses one. For example, when I played there a few years ago, I started at my CCLA rating and was unaware that they allowed engine use and lost 200 points to engines!
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    • #17
      I played on lss for a while and got stomped by anyone above 1000. The only players I managed to beat were rated around my level, say 700-900. I wasn't using an engine, just not what I want from my chess, and I can be reasonably sure that anyone rated like me wasn't using engines either.

      One place I have a soft spot for is [E4EC] Correspondence chess in the E4 Emailchess Club. Essentially email chess without giving your email address to your opponent or fiddling with timekeeping. Often paired with Hungarian opponents as that's where the server is - about 300(?) players there. For me, if it had a wider player base, maybe 2or300 more it would be ideal.

      Had a go at IECC but found it quite involved. Won't be doing that again I don't think.

      Schemingmind is a fantastic place. Like the e4ec server, most of the players know and understand that it's correspondence chess and it takes a long time. I've found on the larger commercial sites (chess.com etc), you can get worn down by the 'move move NOW' brigade. Nearly half the games I won there were by timeout. Just too many members. However, that seems to be the main aim of chess.com and its ilk, to count and brag about the number of members.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by happychesser View Post
        I played on lss for a while and got stomped by anyone above 1000. The only players I managed to beat were rated around my level, say 700-900. I wasn't using an engine, just not what I want from my chess, and I can be reasonably sure that anyone rated like me wasn't using engines either.
        Just as a quick acid test I chose a game at random between a couple of 1400’s on LSS and analyzed it with Houdini. The loser got one “?” on a move that lost the game. Houdini made no other suggested improvements. Conclusion: At whatever level you start on LSS you will probably be playing an engine user AND you will be stuck there.

        Of course most engine users only let their engines analyze a minute or two then pick whatever move it suggests. So if you want to, you can use a more powerful computer and let it run for a couple of days to get better results.

        I have played in a few tournaments there to check out different engines, settings and to see if I could play like the best CC players. Was I good enough to know how to nudge the game into lines engines don’t evaluate correctly? No, I wasn’t and ended up with just a little better than an even score. Engine assisted play doesn’t suit me but I have discovered there is more to it than just buying the latest software and entering a tournament. In the tournaments of the best CC players a person who relies solely on an engine to select his moves will probably lose all his games.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by ketchuplover
          I can't create open challenges on plasticbishop.com The forums say to try a new browser or reinstall my current one. I say screw that.
          Huh, that's odd.
          And this isn't just a simple Firefox/IE compatibility issue?
          Brick walls hurt, but are effective for banging against repeatedly. For future reference, cardboard walls are fun too.

          Being a professional player is something akin to being a prostitute. First I played because other people did it. Then I played because I liked to play. And finally I played just for the money. - Benko

          Procrastination: due date = do date

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ketchuplover
            I can't create open challenges on plasticbishop.com The forums say to try a new browser or reinstall my current one. I say screw that.
            I was going to say don't worry about it but I see you've already subscribed. I played 20-25 games there, winning them all, including about a half a dozen in 5-10 moves. The quality of the competition is not very high (obviously).
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            • #21
              Where does ICC fit in?

              S.

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              • #22
                on Dragonheelslair, you can now play all your games from your phone. The version for phone webbrowser is functional.
                Welcome in Dragonheel's lair

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ketchuplover
                  members of itsyourturn.com may now play up to 150 tournament games concurrently. this is up from 100. have a nice day.
                  What does it cost to become a member of itsyourturn.com money-wise?
                  Brick walls hurt, but are effective for banging against repeatedly. For future reference, cardboard walls are fun too.

                  Being a professional player is something akin to being a prostitute. First I played because other people did it. Then I played because I liked to play. And finally I played just for the money. - Benko

                  Procrastination: due date = do date

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ketchuplover
                    thechessplayground.org has a new look.

                    the old site was infected by hackers.

                    the new site has approx. 30 members
                    85 members and climbing
                    http://chesshood.acoxi.com/ coming soon

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                    • #25
                      How are you doing at Lechenicher SchachServer? Just curious.

                      When I started there (actually at the now defunct IECG at ~2050) I didn’t know they allowed engine use and by the time I realized it had lost 200 points! The joke was on me! So I started using Fritz 5.32 and an old, slow computer and barely managed to hold my own. Since getting a new laptop, upgrading my software and reading Robin Smith’s Modern Chess Analysis to learn how to properly use an engine to analyze a position I’m slowly climbing back and am at +13 –11 =22.

                      All the other places I played (CCLA, ICCF, Chessworld and Queen Alice) at around the 2200-2300 level were rife with Fritzers at that level, so I decided to play only at LSS where they allow engines. If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em. Learning how to use engines was a real eye-opener and gave me some new respect for top level CC players because there’s more to it than just letting the engine choose a move if you want to get past a whole gaggle of other engine users.
                      Last edited by Perseus; 01-25-2012, 07:02 AM.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ketchuplover
                        Hopefully my rivals think I just have a crappy engine
                        I do have a crappy engine. I have the latest and greatest version of the ChessPatzer software installed between my ears.

                        --Fromper

                        "Don't be afraid of ghosts! Always play the moves you want to play unless you see a genuine tactical drawback." --Grandmaster Neil McDonald

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                        • #27
                          CCLA dues run from Jan thru Dec and are $25 per year with the magazine mailed every month or $19 if you choose the electronic version. Dues are pro-rated based on the month you join so joining this month should be about half that. The CCLA is the US’s officially recognized CC organization by the ICCF.

                          I was a CCLA member for many years but dropped out a couple of years ago because at the time they didn’t offer server play or accept PayPal and I found the same level of competition was available for free at Queen Alice. I was also a member at Chessworld for several years and it’s also an excellent site if you are a member. But then, again, I could not see paying about $32 a year for a site with a lot of bells and whistles like your personal home page, lots of training stuff and interesting, friendly, well-moderated forums, none of which interested me much.

                          If you want an official CC rating and/or official international CC rating and a magazine the CCLA is the way to go. Or...if you want to play using post cards!! After that my choice is Chessworld, but because I am, as I like to call it, “thrifty”, I would prefer Queen Alice.
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                          • #28
                            so what is the best FREE correspondence chess site???

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                            • #29
                              Can I use an iPad on this site? I dont think it has java - not sure- but it has Safari.

                              Skippy

                              I nean queen Alice.
                              Last edited by Perseus; 01-25-2012, 07:05 AM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ketchuplover
                                Some players on chesshere.com may be exceeding the active games limit for non-premium members. I informed the webmaster of my concern.
                                Several years ago when I got back into chess and was looking for a good CC site there was someone all over the internet cc sites and forums claiming to GM Amir Bagheri. He even had his own Blog, long defunct. The guy got kicked off all the sites then finally turned up at Chesshere. I was playing a few games there and posted a couple times in the forum. Apparently “Amir Bagheri” bought the site and sent me a PM asking me to be a forum mod, but I was convinced he was a fraud so wasn’t interested. It would seem at some point he dropped the charade and changed his name. Know anything about that?
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