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  • Carlsen is all over!

    Magnus Carlsen sure is making the rounds. What do y'all think? Are his antics good or bad for chess?

    Carlsen mates Bill Gates in 79 – seconds! | Chess News
    Alexander Alekhine is my chess hero.

    An eerie chess short story: The Empty Chair

    My newest chess story: Gamble: A Supernatural Chess Tale

  • #2
    FIDE/AGON, Blitz, computers, and the wild proliferation of increasingly redundant chess books are bad for chess, not Carlsen (IMO).

    This game with Whatshisname was "entertainment". Any chessic value/devaluation was trivial.

    It's on the level of Boris Becker vs Garry Kasparov (2000)

    Mildly pleasant as entertainment, but neither valuable nor harmful to chess.

    My guess is that Magnus would have beaten him at tic-tac-toe as easily

    Carlsen seems to have a pretty level head on him, and I'm not sure that any of his activities qualify as "antics"? Justin Beiber he's not.
    Last edited by Celadonite; 01-25-2014, 03:08 PM.
    "They work at the pace of amnesia."--M. Bloch

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    • #3
      I guess I’m just feeling a bit... I dunno... protective? I don’t *want* the masses knowing about chess, honestly. I like being the weird guy who knows things about a nerdy game nobody cares about. It’s like secret society. If Magnus Carlsen ends up all over the tabloids and late shows, that all ends, pretty much.

      Maybe?
      Alexander Alekhine is my chess hero.

      An eerie chess short story: The Empty Chair

      My newest chess story: Gamble: A Supernatural Chess Tale

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      • #4
        You gotta take it a bit deeper: the "masses" will never be 'wierd'....even if they eventually learn how a knight moves, 99% of them won't ever try playing the Alekhine because somewhere or other they'll have read it's not the Best Possible Response for Black. They surely won't be playing The Bird, for the reason that GM Wild-Bill Dumpkopf says 'It's no good' in his latest chess-thriller cum textbook.

        Most of them won't be playing chess, either, but monkeying around with their computers and debating the value of plus/minus .0021 on the 41st move.

        Chess is bifurcating...if you really want to be 'wierd', accept that and take your chess investigations and play "underground". Let Famous People find interest in the game, and talk it to death on TV shows until Aboveground is as bored with it as they are with last-seasons reruns. Let FIDE/AGON glitz it up with Vegas-style production values. Fads come, fads go, but Chess abides.

        It's a grand opportunity to be even 'wierder' than you are---take your interests 'underground', pursue the Truths you perceive in the game, study the metaphors/analogies with Life, the Universe, and Everything and smirk knowingly when the Fashionables are unable to tell you how "42" relates to the game.

        BTW, PM me if you don't already know how it does, and I'll clue you in to this bit o'wierdness.
        Last edited by Celadonite; 01-26-2014, 03:29 PM.
        "They work at the pace of amnesia."--M. Bloch

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        • #5
          Did Carlsen play any tournament in the meanwhile ? I really wonder who can stand up to him since the championship is every year now. In Kasparovs days he was sure for 3 years.

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          • #6
            Good publicity for chess.
            " Deep calculation is not what distinguishes the champions. It does not matter how far ahead you see if you don't understand what you are looking at. When I contemplate my move, I first must consider all the elements in the position so that i can develop a strategy and develop intermediate objectives"

            -- Garry Kasparov--

            "Tactics must be guided by strategy"

            --- Garry Kasparov--

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            • #7
              I'm thinking the only thing that publicity is going to do is remind a father to teach their son how to play chess.

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              • #8
                Heh, yeah. Thanks, all.

                C, that’s a very good post and I guess you are right--I hadn’t really gone that deep. I guess that if the masses were inclined to play the Alekhine, they’d have done it by now.

                Therefore, is it all a waste? The effort?
                Alexander Alekhine is my chess hero.

                An eerie chess short story: The Empty Chair

                My newest chess story: Gamble: A Supernatural Chess Tale

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                • #9
                  I think Octal nailed it. Mainstream publicity does cause more people to play chess. Just look at Waitzkin - Josh became a chess prodigy and brought all this publicity to the game, but he only started because his father was inspired by Fischer's publicity!

                  Speaking of Carlsen, did anyone see his beat down of Bill Gates? Granted, it was a very fast blitz game, but Gates played a couple of truly patzer moves. Apparently, Gates considers himself a chess player, but there's no way he's above a 12-1300 playing strength. He may be a genius, but chess isn't his game.

                  "Don't be afraid of ghosts! Always play the moves you want to play unless you see a genuine tactical drawback." --Grandmaster Neil McDonald

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                  • #10
                    lol, The link in my original post was that game.
                    Alexander Alekhine is my chess hero.

                    An eerie chess short story: The Empty Chair

                    My newest chess story: Gamble: A Supernatural Chess Tale

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                    • #11
                      More effective would be to teach chess at primary schools. I learned chess at the primary school. They had a teaching program for all the primary schools at my town. It's a small town but its chessclub is one of the biggest in my country, at least in the whole province.

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                      • #12
                        *nodding*
                        Alexander Alekhine is my chess hero.

                        An eerie chess short story: The Empty Chair

                        My newest chess story: Gamble: A Supernatural Chess Tale

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Skwerly View Post
                          lol, The link in my original post was that game.
                          That's what I get for responding without looking at all the details first. If I stopped doing this, I'd probably win more chess games, too.

                          "Don't be afraid of ghosts! Always play the moves you want to play unless you see a genuine tactical drawback." --Grandmaster Neil McDonald

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Octal View Post
                            I'm thinking the only thing that publicity is going to do is remind a father to teach their son how to play chess.
                            Any kind of publicity no matter how small or what kind of form is good for chess. That Carlsen vs Gates(one of the richest man in the world, a well known figure) for sure will attract a lot people of all ages to try learn chess. Google Anand vs Carlsen world championship and compare that to Carlsen vs Gates. You will see that Carlsen vs Gates gets lots of media headlines. Even news agency that does not cover chess reported that Carlsen vs Gates match. Even in youtube their match after just five days already has over 2 million views. If you are advertising a product you will be ecstatic with that.

                            Casual fan 1: Hey friend look Bill Gates is playing chess,it must be a cool game, I will look into this chess and learn it.

                            Casual fan 2: Can I join you?Lets study chess with my Iphone.

                            Casual fan 3: I will join too with my android phone.
                            Last edited by ryan_c; 01-29-2014, 04:39 AM.
                            " Deep calculation is not what distinguishes the champions. It does not matter how far ahead you see if you don't understand what you are looking at. When I contemplate my move, I first must consider all the elements in the position so that i can develop a strategy and develop intermediate objectives"

                            -- Garry Kasparov--

                            "Tactics must be guided by strategy"

                            --- Garry Kasparov--

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                            • #15
                              So when does chess become so recognized that I can use pick-up lines at a bar?

                              "Honey, my dragon can crack open your h-file, sac, sac, and mate."

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