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1. ...b6 -- The Silver Tape of Chess Openings??

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  • 1. ...b6 -- The Silver Tape of Chess Openings??

    Andrew Martin has suggested 1. ...b6 as a one-stop defence for black. He is almost alone in the fan club of the Owen-esque approach. GM Bauer has written a book on b6.

    Which openings would you suggest for a lazy old geezer?

    Yes, I agree that almost anything is OKish below Master Level.

  • #2
    Giuoco Piano, hands-down. Simple to learn, not complex and once learnt is a solid foundation for learning and understanding more complex openings
    "They work at the pace of amnesia."--M. Bloch

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    • #3
      Agreed! A great suggestion but I am looking for a nice and slow opening repertoire for black.

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      • #4
        GP as black, then? That's as sedate as I can think of...

        Also, 1...Nf6 seems to be quite acceptable as a general-purpose first-move for Black, but will as often as not lead into exactly the openings you'd prefer avoiding at the moment!

        I don't think there's truly a sedate opening available to Black, as he's inevitably subject to White's aggressive intent and must respond in kind.

        I suppose if by sedate you mean positional, then you might be in luck if White goes for some of the queen's-pawn openings....
        Last edited by Celadonite; 12-18-2011, 05:25 PM.
        "They work at the pace of amnesia."--M. Bloch

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        • #5
          1...Nf6 for sure. You can really take people off guard with the Alekhine Defense and the Budapest Gambit.

          Because 1...Nf6 is so flexible, you can also transpose to the Pirc, KID, Modern and other openings.
          The last prisoner I played got released during our game. He was in for armed robbery. After release he got a job in a gun factory.

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          • #6
            I second that recommendation.
            I float like a pawn island and sting like an ignored knight

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            • #7
              Thank you for our input!

              Flexibillity is a mixed blessing.

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              • #8
                Go into the Alekhine if you're the sharp, provocation-type. Like in the Pirc, you really have to come up with your own stuff over the board and there are few players around for inspiration, but it's a nice defense people are rarely well-equipped to meet.
                Have you read the Forum rules?

                Queeg: Pawn to King Four. Holly: Horsie to King Bish Three.
                Rimmer: It's called a "knight," actually, Holly...
                Queeg: Knight to King Bishop three. Holly: Queen to Rook Eight. Checkmate.
                Queeg: That's an illegal move. Holly: Oh, sorry. Queens don't move like that. I was thinking of poker.
                Holly: Cleudo? You could be Colonel Mustard.
                Cat: If it's any help, I've been studying his tactics and there's a pattern emerging: Every time you make a move, he makes one too. *Winks to Holly*
                Holly: *Winks back* Thanks, Cat.
                --Red Dwarf

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                • #9
                  My style would be, if I may, sloppy-weak-grinding-esque

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                  • #10
                    You know what is a fun opening that can be played against *any* white moves?

                    1...g6, 2...Bg7 and 3...c5

                    This system works against really anything. It’s not *best* against everything, but it’ll surely work. It’s in the ‘hypermodern’ category of things, so be prepared for d6, f5 or even e6 later on to bust the game open.

                    I use it a lot in bullet games; it’s safe, it’s fast, fun, and flexible.

                    For longer games, I have played the Alekhine for years (1...Nf6) and am recently having success tinkering with the Sicilian Dragon – it’s solid!

                    Also, I love IM Andrew Martin, and have messed with the Owen myself on several occasions. The only reason I like g6 better than b6 is that g6 gets a king side piece ready to develop, which gets black closer to castling.
                    Last edited by Skwerly; 12-23-2011, 05:03 PM.
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                    • #11
                      I know just wthe opening/defense you are looking for…unless you are playing a lot of masters or grandmasters, that is.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by farbror View Post
                        Agreed! A great suggestion but I am looking for a nice and slow opening repertoire for black.
                        Try the Petrov's Defense vs e4 and the Nimzo-Indian vs d4. They will get you near equality and a solid defense without being too passive (1...b4???). There are only a few variations that anyone plays so they are a good way to go for the "lazy" player.

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                        • #13
                          If you're a lazy old geezer (like me) who likes slower openings, then I don't think Nf6 is really the right move. It's too active and tactical. I'd suggest a simple 1 e6, 2 d5 repertoire with the French, and the Queen's Gambit Declined.

                          Another option is the Black Lion a sort of Philidor universal system.

                          The Lion

                          One more is The Modern with c6 and d5. It has a better reputation than Owen's. You can still find copies of Black to play and win with 1 ...g6: a complete defensive system pretty cheap at Amazon.
                          Last edited by Carld256; 02-16-2012, 06:50 PM.

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                          • #14
                            I have tried the Lion a little but it somehow never worked for me. I will look up the book you are suggesting.

                            Thanx!!

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                            • #15
                              Giuoco Piano

                              My chess engine always plays this when i start with Giuoco Piano-

                              1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. d3 d6


                              What should i start with after this??

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