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  • Anyone know where I went wrong

    I'm very new to this forum and I've been playing chess on and off for about 10 years now. I'm not quite sure where it was that I got beat at... I think its when I brought my queen out so early but IDRK. And also how can I export the game log from Sigma Chess 6.1?

    1. e4 c5
    2. d4 cxd4
    3. Qxd4 Nc6
    4. Qd1 Nf6
    5. Nc3 e6
    6. Nf3 Bb4
    7. Bd2 0-0
    8. Be2 Bxc3
    9. Bxc3 Nxe4
    10. Bxg7 Kxg7
    11. 0-0 f5
    12. c4 Qf6
    13. Qb3 b6
    14. Rad1 d6
    15. Bd3 Bb7
    16. Rfe1 Kh8
    17. Bxe4 Fxe4
    18. Rxe4 ne5
    19. Red4 (isn't that Jek Porkins?) Bxf3
    20. gxf3 Nxf3+
    21. Kg2 Qg6+ (I believe it said found forced mate in 5)
    22. Kf1 Qg1+
    23. Ke2 Nxd4+
    24. Rxd4 Rxf2+
    25. Kd3 Qf1+
    26. Ke4 Re2+
    27. Kd3 Qf3#
    Never make fun of geeks for one day they shall rule the world.

  • #2
    3.Nf3 should get the pawn back without loss of tempo. 6...Bb4 threatens the support of the e pawn. Therefore 7.Bd3,7.Bg5,8.Bg5 and 8.Bd3 were better options. 10.Bxg7?? Kxg7 Now you're down a piece with no obvious compensation. 10.Bd2 seems ok. 17.Bxe4 opens up the f file to the benefit of your rival. 10.Bf1 or 10.Bb1 may have held things together longer. 18.Rxe4 now the h1-a8 diaganol is open too. Not that you shouldn't have taken with the rook. This just further shows why 17.Bxe4 wasn't so hot. 19.Re3 was likely your best defense.
    Even then the extra piece should prevail. 20...Nxf3+ its just a matter of time now. Don't give up pieces unless you can get something good in return.
    I float like a pawn island and sting like an ignored knight


    • #3
      1. e4 c5
      2. d4 cxd4
      3. Qxd4

      This brings out the queen too early, and it's easily attackable, as your opponent demonstrated. The most common way to play against the Sicilian (1. e4 c5) is the Open Sicilian: 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 (or 2. ... Nc6) 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4, which leaves your knight in nice, centralized position. There are many other options, though.

      4. Qd1

      Once the queen is developed, you might as well keep it developed, even though it does have to retreat somewhere. Maybe Qa4, Qe3, or Qd3 here. Tough call. But it is safest on d1, so I guess that's not terrible.

      5. Nc3 e6
      6. Nf3 Bb4
      7. Bd2

      This allows Bxc3 Bxc3 Nxe4, so if black protects his g pawn first, you'll lose a pawn. I'm thinking maybe Qd3 or Bd3 here, protecting that e4 pawn.

      8. Be2

      Again, Bd3 here would have protected the e4 pawn.

      9. Bxc3 Nxe4
      10. Bxg7

      What the heck was THAT??? If you're going to sacrifice a piece, you'd better have a good followup attack planned. In this case, I see nothing to follow this up with. You just lost a bishop for a pawn, which gives you a losing game immediately, unless you can find a mating attack in the middle game.

      Your best move here was probably 10. Qd3, attacking his e4 knight, and making sure you don't end up with doubled pawns if Nxc3. That also would have left your opponent guessing as to which direction you're going to castle.

      11. 0-0 f5
      12. c4 Qf6
      13. Qb3

      You're taking up space on the queen side with these last two moves, but I don't see what you think you're attacking. What was the plan?

      14. Rad1 d6
      15. Bd3 Bb7
      16. Rfe1 Kh8
      17. Bxe4 Fxe4
      18. Rxe4

      You put your rooks on the semi-open file, and traded pieces in a way that won a pawn, which would be good if you weren't already down by so much material. But you're still down a piece from the bishop sac earlier, your rook is now lined up to be the victim of a revealed attack by the bishop, and your opponent is opening attacking lanes for a king side attack.

      19. Red4

      I keep looking at other moves to trade off his attackers (19. Nxe5) or protect the f3 knight (19. Re3), but given the firepower aimed at f3, I think you're pretty much already doomed.

      20. gxf3 Nxf3+
      21. Kg2 Qg6+
      22. Kf1 Qg1+
      23. Ke2 Nxd4+
      24. Rxd4 Rxf2+
      25. Kd3 Qf1+
      26. Ke4 Re2+
      27. Kd3 Qf3#

      Overall, the queen maneuvers failed to accomplish anything, but they weren't outright harmful, other than wasting time that could have been spent on other things.

      10. Bxg7 was clearly your worst move of the game. As I said, if you're going to give up material, you'd better have a followup attack. After that, you failed to see his attack coming on the king side and stop it. In fact, by getting rid of his f pawn while his rook and queen were lined up behind it, you helped open up an attacking lane for him, so that was probably your second biggest mistake of the game.

      But even if you had stopped the attack by trading off some pieces, you would have just ended up in an endgame where you were down a bishop, so you would have lost anyway.

      Based on your overall level of play, I'd say that to improve, you need to get a book of easy tactics puzzles to go through over and over. That and always analyze your games afterwards, especially with the help of stronger players. Those two things should help you improve greatly, and you can worry about studying other areas of the game like openings, endgames, and positional play after you get through at least one tactics book.


      "Don't be afraid of ghosts! Always play the moves you want to play unless you see a genuine tactical drawback." --Grandmaster Neil McDonald


      • #4
        Thanks I'll remeber all this info for my next games
        Never make fun of geeks for one day they shall rule the world.


        • #5
          Recent games with the line played.

          See these games:
          [Event "NRW-ch U15 Girls"]
          [Site "Muenster"]
          [Date "1994.??.??"]
          [Round "7"]
          [White "Strehl,Maike"]
          [Black "Wagner,Frauke"]
          [Result "1/2"]
          [Eco "B45"]
          1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.Qxd4 Nc6 4.Qd1 Nf6 5.Nc3 e6 6.Nf3 Bb4 7.Bd2 0-0 8.e5 Bxc3
          9.Bxc3 Nd5 10.Bd4 Nxd4 11.Nxd4 d6 12.exd6 Qxd6 13.Qd2 Qb4 14.Qxb4 Nxb4 1/2

          [Event "Svetla nad Sazavou op"]
          [Site "Svetla nad Sazavou"]
          [Date "1995.??.??"]
          [Round "0"]
          [White "Motycka,Frantisek"]
          [Black "Jandecka,Tomas"]
          [Result "0-1"]
          [Eco "B45"]
          1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nc3 e6 4.d4 cxd4 5.Qxd4 Nc6 6.Qd1 Bb4 7.Bd2 0-0 8.Bd3 d5
          9.exd5 exd5 10.0-0 Bg4 11.h3 Bh5 12.a3 Ba5 13.b4 Bc7 14.Be2 Re8 15.Bg5 Bxf3 16.Bxf3 Be5
          17.Qd3 Rc8 18.Ra2 Nxb4 19.axb4 Rxc3 20.Bxf6 Qxf6 21.Qxd5 Qf4 22.Rd1 Qh2+ 23.Kf1 Bd4 24.Be4 Bb6
          25.Rd3 Qh1+ 26.Ke2 Qxg2 27.Rxc3 Rxe4+ 28.Kd2 Re2+ 29.Kxe2 Qxd5 30.Rc8+ Bd8 0-1

          [Event "TBI-C-XIII-XIV-P-0028 corr"]
          [Site "Brazil CXEB"]
          [Date "1995.??.??"]
          [Round "0"]
          [White "Paganella,Alberto C"]
          [Black "Saad,Marcelo"]
          [Result "1-0"]
          [Eco "B45"]
          1.d4 c5 2.Nc3 cxd4 3.Qxd4 Nc6 4.Qd1 Nf6 5.e4 e6 6.Nf3 Bb4 7.Bd2 0-0 8.Bd3 Bxc3
          9.Bxc3 d5 10.e5 Ne4 11.Bxe4 dxe4 12.Qxd8 Rxd8 13.Ng5 Nd4 14.Bxd4 Rxd4 15.0-0 h6 16.Nh3 Rd5
          17.Rad1 g5 18.Rxd5 1-0

          [Event "FIN-ch U12"]
          [Site "Finland"]
          [Date "1996.??.??"]
          [Round "4"]
          [White "Virkamaki,Lauri"]
          [Black "Kauppila,Jerko"]
          [Result "1-0"]
          [Eco "B45"]
          1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.Qxd4 Nc6 4.Qd1 e6 5.Nc3 Nf6 6.Nf3 Bb4 7.Bd2 0-0 8.a3 Bxc3
          9.Bxc3 Nxe4 10.Bd3 Nxc3 11.bxc3 Qa5 12.Qd2 Ne5 13.Ng5 f5 14.0-0 Qc7 15.c4 Ng4 16.Nf3 e5
          17.h3 Nf6 18.Bxf5 Qxc4 19.Nxe5 Rd8 20.Nxc4 1-0

          [Event "GER-chT U13"]
          [Site "Verden"]
          [Date "1996.??.??"]
          [Round "4"]
          [White "Theseling,D"]
          [Black "Strueve,Klaas Dietrich"]
          [Result "1/2"]
          [Eco "B45"]
          1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 Nc6 6.Nf3 Bb4 7.Bd2 0-0 8.Bd3 d5
          9.0-0 d4 10.Ne2 Bxd2 11.Qxd2 e5 12.h3 Nh5 13.Rfc1 Qf6 14.Qg5 Qxg5 15.Nxg5 Nf6 16.Nf3 Be6
          17.Bb5 Nd7 18.c3 dxc3 19.Rxc3 Rfc8 20.Rac1 Nf6 21.Bxc6 bxc6 22.Nxe5 Nxe4 23.Re3 Bd5 24.Nf4 Nf6
          25.Nxd5 cxd5 26.Rec3 Re8 27.Nf3 Rab8 28.b3 Rbd8 29.Rd3 Re2 30.a4 Ne4 31.Rxd5 Re8 32.Re5 Rf8
          33.Rc4 f5 34.Ng5 Rb2 35.Nxe4 fxe4 36.Rcxe4 Rbxf2 37.Re2 Rxe2 38.Rxe2 Rb8 39.Rb2 a5 1/2

          [Event "CZE-ch U16 Girls"]
          [Site "Svetla nad Sazavou"]
          [Date "1999.??.??"]
          [Round "1"]
          [White "Benschova,Sarka"]
          [Black "Markova,Katerina"]
          [Result "0-1"]
          [Eco "B45"]
          1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.Qxd4 Nc6 4.Qd1 Nf6 5.Nc3 e6 6.Nf3 Bb4 7.Bd2 0-0 8.a3 Bxc3
          9.Bxc3 Nxe4 10.Bd3 Nxc3 11.bxc3 d5 12.0-0 e5 13.Be2 e4 14.Nd2 Qg5 15.Kh1 f5 16.f4 Qf6
          17.c4 d4 18.Nb3 Be6 19.Nc5 b6 20.Na6 Rac8 21.c5 Na5 22.Qd2 Nc4 23.Qb4 bxc5 24.Nxc5 a5
          25.Qb5 Ne3 26.Rfc1 Nxc2 27.Rab1 Nxa3 28.Qxa5 Nxb1 29.Rxb1 d3 30.Bd1 Qe7 31.Rb7 Qxc5 0-1

          [Event "DEN Winter class-B 9900"]
          [Site "Denmark"]
          [Date "1999.??.??"]
          [Round "3"]
          [White "Rosenkilde,Alexander"]
          [Black "Foslund,Kasper"]
          [Result "1-0"]
          [Eco "B45"]
          1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e6 6.Nf3 Bb4 7.Bd2 0-0 8.Bd3 d5
          9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxd5 Qxd5 11.0-0 Bxd2 12.Qxd2 b6 13.Rfe1 Bb7 14.Rad1 f5 15.Re2 Nd4 16.Re3 f4
          17.Re4 Nxf3+ 18.gxf3 Qg5+ 19.Kh1 Bxe4 20.Bxe4 Rac8 21.Rg1 Qe5 22.c3 Rfd8 23.Qe2 Rc7 24.Bxh7+ Kxh7
          25.Qxe5 Rf7 26.Qxe6 Rf6 27.Qe7 Rg8 28.Rxg7+ Rxg7 29.Qxf6 Kg8 30.h4 Rh7 31.Qd8+ Kg7 32.Qg5+ Kf8
          33.h5 1-0

          [Event "San Miguel op"]
          [Site "San Miguel"]
          [Date "1999.??.??"]
          [Round "1"]
          [White "Garcia Cano,Jaime"]
          [Black "Arias Rodriguez,Santiago"]
          [Result "0-1"]
          [Eco "B45"]
          1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.Qxd4 Nc6 4.Qd1 Nf6 5.Nc3 e6 6.Nf3 Bb4 7.Bd2 0-0 8.Nb5 Bc5
          9.Bd3 d5 10.e5 Ne4 11.Bxe4 dxe4 12.Ng5 Qb6 13.Qe2 e3 14.Bxe3 Bxe3 15.Qxe3 Qxb5 16.b3 Qxe5
          17.Qxe5 Nxe5 18.0-0 Bd7 19.Rfe1 Ng6 20.Nf3 Rfd8 21.Rad1 Bc6 22.Rxd8+ Rxd8 23.h3 Bxf3 24.gxf3 Nf4
          25.Kh2 g5 26.Re4 h5 27.h4 f6 28.hxg5 fxg5 29.Kg3 Kf7 30.c4 Kf6 31.c5 h4+ 32.Kg4 Rd1
          33.Rxf4+ gxf4 34.Kxf4 Rg1 35.a3 h3 36.b4 h2 37.a4 h1=Q 38.a5 Qh6+ 39.Ke4 Re1+ 40.Kd4 Qd2+
          41.Kc4 Rc1+ 0-1

          [Event "Dresden Vdes op"]
          [Site "Dresden"]
          [Date "2000.01.26"]
          [Round "5"]
          [White "Sowa,Franz"]
          [Black "Neugebauer,Josef"]
          [Result "1-0"]
          [Eco "B45"]
          1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e6 6.Nf3 Bb4 7.Bd2 0-0 8.Bd3 e5
          9.a3 Ba5 10.b4 Bb6 11.Bg5 h6 12.Bh4 d6 13.Nd5 g5 14.Nxg5 Nxd5 15.exd5 Bxf2+ 16.Bxf2 Qxg5
          17.dxc6 bxc6 18.Qf3 d5 19.Qg3 e4 20.Qxg5+ hxg5 21.Be2 f5 22.g3 f4 23.gxf4 gxf4 24.Rg1+ Kh7
          25.Bd4 Rf7 26.Bh5 Re7 27.Kf2 Bf5 28.c3 a5 29.Rg5 e3+ 30.Ke2 Bc8 31.Rag1 Ba6+ 32.Kf3 Bd3
          33.Bf7 Be4+ 34.Kg4 Rxf7 35.Rh5+ 1-0

          [Event "Internet Section 08B g/8'+2""]
          [Site "Dos Hermanas"]
          [Date "2004.03.08"]
          [Round "1"]
          [White "Pavel"]
          [Black "Shterenberg,Baruch"]
          [Result "0-1"]
          [Eco "B45"]
          1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e6 6.Nf3 Bb4 7.Bd2 0-0 8.Bd3 a6
          9.a3 Be7 10.0-0 Qc7 11.Re1 b5 12.b4 d6 13.Ne2 Bb7 14.Ng3 Rac8 15.Rc1 d5 16.exd5 Nxd5
          17.c4 bxc4 18.Bxc4 Nf6 19.b5 axb5 20.Bxb5 Bxa3 21.Rc2 Qb6 22.Bf1 Nb4 23.Be3 Qd8 24.Rxc8 Qxc8
          25.Qb3 Nc2 26.Re2 Nxe3 27.Qxa3 Nxf1 28.Kxf1 Ba6 29.Qa2 Qc1+ 30.Ne1 Bc4 31.Qa4 Bxe2+ 32.Nxe2 Qh6
          33.h3 g6 34.Nf3 Rd8 35.Ne5 Qd2 36.g3 Qd1+ 37.Qxd1 Rxd1+ 38.Kg2 Re1 39.Kf3 Nd5 40.Nd3 Rd1
          41.Nb2 Rd2 42.Nc4 Rc2 43.Na3 Ra2 44.Nc4 Nc3 45.Nxc3 Rc2 46.Ne5 Rxc3+ 47.Kg2 Kg7 48.Nf3 Rxf3
          49.Kxf3 Kf6 50.Kf4 e5+ 51.Ke4 Ke6 52.g4 f5+ 53.gxf5+ gxf5+ 54.Kf3 Kd5 55.Ke3 h5 56.f4 e4
          57.h4 Kc4 58.Kf2 Kd3 59.Kg3 e3 60.Kf3 e2 61.Kf2 Kd2 62.Kf3 e1=Q 63.Kg2 Qxh4 64.Kg1 Qxf4
          65.Kg2 Ke2 66.Kh3 Qg4+ 67.Kh2 Kf3 68.Kh1 Qg2+ 0-1

          [Event "Sachsen-ch U16 Girls"]
          [Site "Sebnitz"]
          [Date "2007.04.10"]
          [Round "2"]
          [White "Kabutke,Susann"]
          [Black "Schulz,Anja2"]
          [Result "0-1"]
          [Eco "B45"]
          1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e6 6.Nf3 Bb4 7.Bd2 0-0 8.Bc4 Bxc3
          9.Bxc3 Nxe4 10.Qd3 d5 11.Bb5 Qb6 12.0-0 Nxc3 13.bxc3 h6 14.Rab1 a6 15.Ba4 Qc7 16.Nd4 Bd7
          17.Nxc6 Bxc6 18.Bxc6 Qxc6 19.h3 Rfc8 20.Rb3 b5 21.Rc1 Rc7 22.Kf1 Rac8 23.g3 d4 24.Kg1 dxc3
          25.Kh2 Rd7 26.Qe3 Rd2 0-1


          • #6
            Thought 3.Qxd4 does not have a good reputation, it has been used sparingly at high level of play
            " Deep calculation is not what distinguishes the champions. It does not matter how far ahead you see if you don't understand what you are looking at. When I contemplate my move, I first must consider all the elements in the position so that i can develop a strategy and develop intermediate objectives"

            -- Garry Kasparov--

            "Tactics must be guided by strategy"

            --- Garry Kasparov--