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[SOLVED] Stalemate?

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  • [SOLVED] Stalemate?

    Hi all, I'm new to the forum and new to chess itself. I only started playing when another forum I frequent installed a chess game for members to use.

    As a beginner, I'm confused by the following scenario, where I was playing as white:



    Could someone explain to me why this is ruled a draw? I figured I had him well and truly beat! How can my opponent take as much away from this game as me, when I was so clearly in control? I'm not bitter (well maybe a little...), but I need to know what I did wrong to avoid pursuing the same strategy in future games.

    Thanks for any help!

  • #2
    Those are just the rules. If it is your opponent's turn and he has no legal moves, then the game ends in a stalemate. The king is not allowed to move into check.
    Last edited by Eladar; 10-27-2008, 11:50 PM.

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    • #3
      Indeed, it is just the rules of the game, if you leave your opponent with no legal move, it is a draw. I'd say the logic is that at that point you suffocated your opponent; he isn't moving, but you can't catch him at that point either. The game doesn't allow move passing, so yeah...

      Another situation to be cautious about is when both players repeated the same moves 3 times respectively and subsequently. Hence the term 'stalemate', stale meaning lacking of freshness and mate means...well that's figurative D:.

      To avoid it....hmm well, when you are up in material of simply almost taking away all of the monarch's liberties (squares he can move to), be sure to calculate it before making your moves. When I have THAT much material as you did, I mostly sacrifice one Rook to making things easier, if I am lazy to calculate. But that's just me.
      Last edited by Devotion; 09-21-2008, 03:08 AM.
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      • #4
        Yea, basically the object of chess is to win, so if you leave your opponent NO moves, the rules assume you messed up somewhere and penalizes you by drawing hehe.

        Looks like you played well, though!

        I don't usually link to Wiki stuff, but this page actually covers the subject quite well!

        Stalemate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

        Hope this helps .
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        • #5
          Thanks folks, I think I understand now. So the objective is not to corner your opponent in a hole so he won't come out, but to catch him in the open and give him no place to hide.

          Somehow I expect a lot of my games to still end in stalemate.

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          • #6
            Well, if you calculate your moves slowly and carefully, it would not happen D:. But then, if you keep getting it, that means you should analyse those games to see how it occurs. Unless you are satisfied with a draw D:
            "Blame yourself, or blame God." - Delita, Final Fantasy Tactics



            I tried to be perfect but nothing was worth it, I don't believe it makes me real...

            This place is so empty, my thoughts are so tempting...

            But it's the only thing that I have.

            If you believe it's in my soul, I'll say all the words that I know; just to see if it would show, that I'm trying to let you know...


            That I'm better off on my own.

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            • #7
              I know, it's something I'll just have to keep in mind when strategizing. I'm still learning. I've just discovered how to castle, and my next mission is getting to grips with en passant. I'll get there slowly.

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              • #8
                Stalemates can hurt, or they can be your salvation (when you're the other player.)

                In this case, the king has no legal moves, because he is trapped. He cannot move into check, to a square that is threatened. But the king is not dead, just trapped. He is not being attacked by a check. In order to win the game, you have to kill the king without him having an escape, not just trap him.

                One way to avoid it is to leave another piece on the board that can move. The king can be trapped but it isn't stalemate if your opponent has another piece somewhere that can move legally. You played a little too well, taking all his other pieces.

                The risk of stalemate increases with multiple queens on the board. A queen and a rook is more than enough muscle to trap and kill a squirmy king, without as much risk of stalemate.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PUPcamper View Post
                  One way to avoid it is to leave another piece on the board that can move. The king can be trapped but it isn't stalemate if your opponent has another piece somewhere that can move legally. You played a little too well, taking all his other pieces.
                  He had a sole surviving pawn that was posing no threat, but I hunted it down anyway. That'll teach me for being ruthless.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PUPcamper View Post
                    One way to avoid it is to leave another piece on the board that can move. The king can be trapped but it isn't stalemate if your opponent has another piece somewhere that can move legally. You played a little too well, taking all his other pieces.
                    So...total annihilation is out of the question? THAT'S why I'm getting so many draws

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