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Another opening I absolutely despise (Queens Gambit?)

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  • Another opening I absolutely despise (Queens Gambit?)

    Is this Queen's Gambit?

    1.d4 d5
    2.c4

    Pardon my french, but I just f****ing HATE this opening.

    I see this, I am tempted to just resign right there because I always, always always get annihilated when I encounter it.

    Lately I've been trying

    2. - b6

    and then everything pretty well starts falling apart soon after.
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  • #2
    At low levels, a game is never lost in the opening. That's why good players can give piece odds as if they blundered a piece and still come back and win. If you can play a good endgame and spot tactical opportunities, there's no reason you would get annihilated just because you face a certain opening.

    The best way to get comfortable facing an opening is to look how stronger players handle it. Go to Chessgames.com: Chess Games Database & Community and enter "Queen's Gambit" into opening field and "black wins" under result. Plug in your favorite player and go through a bunch of games.

    One last thing, don't just give up and resign when you face positions you aren't comfortable in. Those are exactly the ones you should play through and learn from. Accept it as a valuable lesson rather than obsessing about winning every game. Every loss is a valuable teacher of your weaknesses that will increase your strength if you learn from them.
    Last edited by moocowmoocow; 10-27-2013, 07:46 AM.

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    • #3
      Can you show us the games where you lost to the Queen's Gambit? There are many, many ways the game could go, so 1.d4 d5 2.c4 is not really telling us anything.

      What moomoo milk means is that even though you may not make the best moves in the opening, you will not lose immediately, UNLESS you make tactical mistakes.

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      • #4
        I think why this opening is so intimidating for me is over time (maybe) is because it gets used by more experienced players so when I see it, psychologically I'm in the underdog frame of mind.

        Accepting the gambit seems like a suckers bet to me, but apparently its not necessarily so. My latest development of 2. - b6 is to be able to deal with an eventual push of his pawn to c5, which always causes me trouble.

        For me, once i get into the frazzled mindset I'm pretty well toast (this is the reason I had the Psychology of Chess board added here, it is all a mental game for me right now - I'll post more on that in the PoC board)
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        • #5
          YouTube is your friend. Search for queen’s gambit’ on there and watch a few of the videos; it isn’t as bad as you think it is.
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          • #6
            You don't have to accept the gambit. In fact, the QG is not a true gambit, because White can regain the pawn immediately.

            I would simply play 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 or 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6.

            I do not like 1.d4 d5 2.c4 b6 as much, because White can take on d5, then play e4, giving him large centre control.

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            • #7
              I'd recommend what Skwerly did: familiarize yourself with this opening as much as you can by watching some vids on it. Also look up Albin Counter Gambit and avoid playing hypermodern (willingly give up the centre and then attack it from the wings)
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              • #8
                b6 can not be played against that opening.
                Suggestion: Go over Capablanca, and Rubinstein's games.
                The Queen's Gambit had its hey-day up to the 1920's, and early 30's.
                The reasoning involved is not the opening, but why moves are made.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Malbase View Post
                  b6 can not be played against that opening.
                  Suggestion: Go over Capablanca, and Rubinstein's games.
                  The Queen's Gambit had its hey-day up to the 1920's, and early 30's.
                  The reasoning involved is not the opening, but why moves are made.
                  Sure it can.. Just not very successfully at higher levels on move 2. But b6 can and has been played successfully in other positions spawning from later move orders. Maybe this is an incomplete comment?

                  Also? Queens gambits hey day is still going. It is currently the most popular opening, and some even try to avoid it. They say it is the "Opening for world champions".
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                  • #10
                    I believe in Alekhine vs. Capa, only one game wasn't 1. d4 from either side.
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                    • #11
                      Hi Stuntpope,

                      the Queen's gambit is a solid, positional opening, and maybe that's why you don't like it. Standard moves in this opening are (often in this order)
                      d5
                      e6
                      Nf6
                      Be7
                      0-0

                      Then at this point you can start thinking about the next move. However it is true that black can get slowly squeezed.
                      If you feel like playing more actively, you can play other openings against 1.d4. Some examples:
                      1...c5 A Benoni setup. White will probably push d5 to get a space advantage, but Black gets some counter-chances.
                      1...f5 The Dutch opening, where Black usually launches a quick attach on the Kingside.
                      1...Nf6This flexible move gives you one more move to decide what you what to do. Could be a good idea.

                      hope it helps
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