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Chessleaders (Bahrain) vs ChessForums.org (UK)
[Event "International Chess Forums Tournament"]
[Site "Internet"]
[Date "2009.03.18"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Chess Forums UK"]
[Black "Bahrain"]
[Result "*"]
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ChessForums.org to move first, move due Wednesday evening USA time.
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02-03-2010, 12:52 AM
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#141 (permalink)
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The two best moves look like Rb8 and e5.
I'm sure there's some book somewhere that says 15. ...e5 is best.
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02-03-2010, 01:04 AM
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#142 (permalink)
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Lets just try 15 ... e5, so that's my vote. |
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02-05-2010, 12:42 AM
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#143 (permalink)
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Alright, 15. ...e5 it is then.
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 Nc6 8. Qd2 0-0 9. 0-0-0 d5 10. exd5 Nxd5 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. Nxd5 cxd5 13. Bh6 Bxh6 14. Qxh6 Qa5 15. Kb1 e5
Posted over there.
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Last edited by granturismo4ad; 02-05-2010 at 12:44 AM..
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02-07-2010, 05:10 PM
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#144 (permalink)
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ChessLeaders has decided on 16. h4
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 Nc6 8. Qd2 0-0 9. 0-0-0 d5 10. exd5 Nxd5 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. Nxd5 cxd5 13. Bh6 Bxh6 14. Qxh6 Qa5 15. Kb1 e5 16. h4
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Procrastination: due date = do date
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02-07-2010, 09:10 PM
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#145 (permalink)
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Some ideas (just ideas):
16 ... Bf5
A 17 g4 Bxc2+ 18 Kxc2 Qxa2:
A1 19 h5 Rac8+ 20 Kd2 (20 Kd3 e4+ has to be suicide.) 21 ... Rc7!? and I kind of like Black's position, although objectively I don't really know.
A2 19 Bd3 Rac8+ 20 Ke2 Qxb2+ 21 Ke1 e4 has to be good for black.
A3 19 Rd2 looks like a better test. Some combination of an e4 push and Rc8+ should be good for black, although I'm not sure of anything direct yet.
B 17 h5 Rac8
B1 18 Bd3 e4 19 fxe4 fxe4 20 Be2 Rc7 21 g4 Rfc8 22 gxf5 (22 c3 Be6 23 a3 Rxc3; 22 Rc1 Be6 23 b3 g5!? may be alright)
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02-08-2010, 03:18 AM
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#146 (permalink)
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16. ... Bf5 17. Bd3 
16. ... Rb8 17. Bd3 e4 18. fxe4 dxe4 19. Bc4! Qb4 20. Bb3
I'm interested in 16. ... f6 followed by Qc7, allowing the queen to quickly cover g7. Still need to check a ton of Bd3-Bxg6 lines though I think this'll work for black.
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White:
- Ruy Lopez
- Sicilian Defense: Chekhover variation, Rossolimo variation, 2. ... e6 3. d4
- French Defense: Bogo-Winawer variation, Alekhine-Chatard attack
- Pirc Defense: Byrne variation
Black:
- Ruy Lopez: Modern Steinitz variation
- Two Knights Defense: Fritz variation, Ulvestadt variation
- King's Gambit: Falkbeer Countergambit: Nimzowitsch variation
- Tarrasch Defense
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02-08-2010, 10:45 PM
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#147 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Perseus
16. ... Bf5 17. Bd3
16. ... Rb8 17. Bd3 e4 18. fxe4 dxe4 19. Bc4! Qb4 20. Bb3
I'm interested in 16. ... f6 followed by Qc7, allowing the queen to quickly cover g7. Still need to check a ton of Bd3-Bxg6 lines though I think this'll work for black. |
Does 16 ... Bf5 17 Bd3 e4 18 fxe4 fxe4 19 Bc4 Rfc8 20 Bb3 Rab8 with e4/Rxb3 in the air make sense? |
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02-09-2010, 12:45 AM
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#148 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Octal
Does 16 ... Bf5 17 Bd3 e4 18 fxe4 fxe4 19 Bc4 Rfc8 20 Bb3 Rab8 with e4/Rxb3 in the air make sense?
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Hmm, that's okay for white, though I don't think it's optimal. But 20. Bxf7+ Kxf7 21. Qxh7+ and white has a perpetual in the bag with more to play for (g4 scares the hell out of me!).
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White:
- Ruy Lopez
- Sicilian Defense: Chekhover variation, Rossolimo variation, 2. ... e6 3. d4
- French Defense: Bogo-Winawer variation, Alekhine-Chatard attack
- Pirc Defense: Byrne variation
Black:
- Ruy Lopez: Modern Steinitz variation
- Two Knights Defense: Fritz variation, Ulvestadt variation
- King's Gambit: Falkbeer Countergambit: Nimzowitsch variation
- Tarrasch Defense
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02-23-2010, 10:06 PM
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#149 (permalink)
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So should we go with 16. ...Bf5?
I sure don't see anything else better.
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Being a professional player is something akin to being a prostitute. First I played because other people did it. Then I played because I liked to play. And finally I played just for the money. - Benko
Procrastination: due date = do date
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02-23-2010, 10:33 PM
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#150 (permalink)
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Jeez, how did black get such a passive position?
16. ... f6 and on h5 we play g5 and get the white queen imprisoned.
Then we have Qb4 at our disposal to move across to the kingside if need be and have gained on an open file with the threat Rb8. White won't be able to take on take on d5 even though it is hanging. 
Yeah, it's simpleton, but that's me.
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