sponsor:
 |
|
07-19-2008, 11:43 PM
|
#1 (permalink)
|
Posts: 169
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
|
Colle system
I have been reading the thread of stonewall attack when I remembered this
Suddenly all players in my country Egypt played one opening as white:
THE COLLE SYSTEM
I usually get confused playing as black and waste much time thinking of replies
ANY HELP?  
|
|
|
|
07-19-2008, 11:57 PM
|
#2 (permalink)
|
Posts: 1,410
Thanked 77 Times in 74 Posts
|
Don't worry, the Colle is a paper tiger, then again, people have had some rather nasty paper cuts from it. I'll dig up my material (and notes) on the Colle and Stonewall in the coming days.
__________________
White:
- Ruy Lopez
- Sicilian Defense: Chekhover variation, Rossolimo variation, Delayed Alapin variation
- French Defense: Bogo-Winawer variation, Classical variation 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 6. Bxe7
- Pirc Defense: Byrne variation
Black:
- Ruy Lopez: Modern Steinitz variation
- Two Knights Defense: Fritz variation, Ulvestadt variation
- King's Gambit: Falkbeer Countergambit: Nimzowitsch variation
- Indian Defense: Nimzo-Indian Defense, Queen's Indian Defense
|
|
|
|
07-20-2008, 12:34 AM
|
#3 (permalink)
|
Posts: 175
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
|
If you want to screw up someone playing the Colle either go to KID or play this:
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3. e3 Bf5
That right there kind of screws up 4.Bd3 and takes the Colle player right out of his game plan.
Perseus,
The Colle is a useful system at lower levels. The Zukertort variation can be played at higher levels. The London can be played at any level, as can the Torre.(or so I've been told)
|
|
|
|
07-20-2008, 12:38 AM
|
#4 (permalink)
|
Posts: 169
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
|
Originally Posted by Eladar
If you want to screw up someone playing the Colle either go to KID or play this:
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3. e3 Bf5
That right there kind of screws up 4.Bd3 and takes the Colle player right out of his game plan.
Perseus,
The Colle is a useful system at lower levels. The Zukertort variation can be played at higher levels. The London can be played at any level, as can the Torre.(or so I've been told)
|
But I'm afraid he continues c4 and he is the one who gets me out of my variation as I don't like that Bf5 and I had never played it
Thanks
 
|
|
|
|
07-20-2008, 12:45 AM
|
#5 (permalink)
|
Posts: 175
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
|
Yes, the natural response is c4 but I fail to see why you fear it. How do you feel about playing the KID?
|
|
|
|
07-20-2008, 12:47 AM
|
#6 (permalink)
|
Posts: 169
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
|
|
|
|
|
07-20-2008, 12:51 AM
|
#7 (permalink)
|
Posts: 175
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
|
There you have it. The KID is an anti-Kid defense. The Bd3 is a terrible move after g6.
The only thing you'll have to worry about playing the KID is if the Colle players knows how to play the Barry Attack. It is an easy transition and the Barry is an Anti-KID.
|
|
|
|
07-20-2008, 03:23 AM
|
#8 (permalink)
|
Posts: 169
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
|
There you have it. The KID is an anti-Kid defense. The Bd3 is a terrible move after g6.
The only thing you'll have to worry about playing the KID is if the Colle players knows how to play the Barry Attack. It is an easy transition and the Barry is an Anti-KID.
|
I'd be grateful if you give me this Barry attack lines
(DON't WORRY I won't tell colle players)
|
|
|
|
07-20-2008, 04:43 AM
|
#9 (permalink)
|
Posts: 175
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
|
Hey now, I'm the Colle player. I'm the one helping the bad guys!!!
I was hoping this would be a thread about the opening instead of a 'how to defeat it'. But I suppose it would be nice to know what else I should be looking out for.
Typical Barry Attack development might look something like this:
1. d4 Nf6
2. Nf3 g6
3. Bf4 Bg7
4. e3 0-0
5. Be2 d6
6. Nc3
White would then look to send a pawn storm to attack black's castled king, looking to bring the attack down the h file.
One other thing, which Colle Variant are you most concerned about, the Zukertort or Koltanowski?
I've been playing the Koltanowski version, but am looking to expand my horizons with the Zukertort, London and Torre Attack, as well as the Barry.
|
|
|
|
07-20-2008, 08:55 AM
|
#10 (permalink)
|
Posts: 1,410
Thanked 77 Times in 74 Posts
|
Originally Posted by Eladar
If you want to screw up someone playing the Colle either go to KID or play this:
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3. e3 Bf5
That right there kind of screws up 4.Bd3 and takes the Colle player right out of his game plan.
Perseus,
The Colle is a useful system at lower levels. The Zukertort variation can be played at higher levels. The London can be played at any level, as can the Torre.(or so I've been told)
|
The Colle, whatever variation, is an incredibly drawish system with correct play. I'm well aware of its playabality as well as that of the London, which is seen in GM play as well; as for the Torre, that doesn't even require defending since Pirc Alert and the likes.
I've sorted through a lot of my stuff, haven't encountered my Colle/London/Stonewall stuff yet but I'll get there.
__________________
White:
- Ruy Lopez
- Sicilian Defense: Chekhover variation, Rossolimo variation, Delayed Alapin variation
- French Defense: Bogo-Winawer variation, Classical variation 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 6. Bxe7
- Pirc Defense: Byrne variation
Black:
- Ruy Lopez: Modern Steinitz variation
- Two Knights Defense: Fritz variation, Ulvestadt variation
- King's Gambit: Falkbeer Countergambit: Nimzowitsch variation
- Indian Defense: Nimzo-Indian Defense, Queen's Indian Defense
|
|
|
|
 |
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|
|
Chess Links
|
If you would like to exchange links with ChessForums.org please contact
us
|
| Subscribe |
|
By subscribing to the ChessForums RSS feeds you can receive new posts in your favorite feedreader.







|
|