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09-21-2007, 09:26 PM
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King's Gambit Questions
I was just wondering what everyone's feelings about the KG are? I'm looking into playing it due to its aggressive nature. Also if anyone could explain the major differences of 3. Nf3 opposed to 3. Bc4 I'd appreciate it. And last, what books are recomended for KG study? Thanks!
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09-21-2007, 10:11 PM
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I would not reccomend buying any opening books on any system unless your ready for mega variations & sub variations. What to do then...hmmm? Pick out the first 10-15 moves & play the KG with your skills. Chessgames.com has loads of info on this opening. There is no such thing as catching a Chicken unawares & your opponent will more than likely equalise if not worse! JMHO
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09-21-2007, 10:20 PM
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Yipes...! I forgot to add that out of 6 KG games I won four & lost two. The two I lost were players way out of my League. They were both 1800 plus.
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09-21-2007, 10:37 PM
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Sorry but, I forgot to add in the last post that the best books are teaching books.!!!!! The guys here can give you a plethora of them I am sure! Do not forget the basic endgame books!!!! I am not talking about Fines tomb But, the basics of endgames. The guys here can fill you in on this. I have won more games in the endgame than I can count but, they were all basic endgames! Hope this helps.
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09-22-2007, 12:09 AM
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The KG is what I would call an old friend of mine. My first opening for white in 1. e4 e5. That was in the day I did not feel comfortable playing the Ruy Lopez or just about any main line opening.
Let me clear a few things up. I played 3. Nf3 (for a long time too), never 3. Bc4. I really liked the KG and have had very good results with it. A thing to remember about the KG is that you don't have to crush your opponent in 20 moves (even though that can happen quite a lot).
Theoretically, you shouldn't be playing the KG. The better accepted variations end up with best play in a slightly to reasonably better position for black, a pawn up or not. In the declined (2. ... Bc5) lines black can play for equality, but white stands a little better. Same for the Falkbeer countergambit,the Nimzowitsch variation thereof and the Modern/Abazzia.
That is theory. If black slips, he can get creamed before you can say Ruy Lopez.
The Polgars had revived the KG (with Bc4) for a while, Spassky never lost with it (though he rarely played it).
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White:
- Ruy Lopez
- Sicilian Defense: Chekhover variation, Rossolimo variation, 2. ... e6 3. d4
- French Defense: Bogo-Winawer variation, Alekhine-Chatard attack
- Pirc Defense: Byrne variation
Black:
- Ruy Lopez: Modern Steinitz variation
- Two Knights Defense: Fritz variation, Ulvestadt variation
- King's Gambit: Falkbeer Countergambit: Nimzowitsch variation
- Tarrasch Defense
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09-22-2007, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Perseus
The KG is what I would call an old friend of mine. My first opening for white in 1. e4 e5. That was in the day I did not feel comfortable playing the Ruy Lopez or just about any main line opening.
Let me clear a few things up. I played 3. Nf3 (for a long time too), never 3. Bc4. I really liked the KG and have had very good results with it. A thing to remember about the KG is that you don't have to crush your opponent in 20 moves (even though that can happen quite a lot).
Theoretically, you shouldn't be playing the KG. The better accepted variations end up with best play in a slightly to reasonably better position for black, a pawn up or not. In the declined (2. ... Bc5) lines black can play for equality, but white stands a little better. Same for the Falkbeer countergambit,the Nimzowitsch variation thereof and the Modern/Abazzia.
That is theory. If black slips, he can get creamed before you can say Ruy Lopez.
The Polgars had revived the KG (with Bc4) for a while, Spassky never lost with it (though he rarely played it).
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Whose games would you recomend studying for the KG? Also, did you read any books on it?
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09-22-2007, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gonzo
Whose games would you recomend studying for the KG? Also, did you read any books on it?
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I never really touched a book on chess openings. But I do believe GM David Bronstein's "200 Open Games", which has a very fine reputation, has a whole section with KG games.
I don't know on the games area... I think Morozevich used it on occasion. I would look into Spassky's KG games and the Polgars' (all 3 played have played it at least once I believe).
I played over some games of Blackburne at the time. That got me interested at least.
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White:
- Ruy Lopez
- Sicilian Defense: Chekhover variation, Rossolimo variation, 2. ... e6 3. d4
- French Defense: Bogo-Winawer variation, Alekhine-Chatard attack
- Pirc Defense: Byrne variation
Black:
- Ruy Lopez: Modern Steinitz variation
- Two Knights Defense: Fritz variation, Ulvestadt variation
- King's Gambit: Falkbeer Countergambit: Nimzowitsch variation
- Tarrasch Defense
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09-22-2007, 11:21 PM
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Studying Morphy is always a good idea. Given his style of play and the time period he played in, I'd assume he played the KG at least a few times, but I haven't studied enough of his games or enough KG games to know for sure.
--Fromper
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09-23-2007, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Fromper
Studying Morphy is always a good idea. Given his style of play and the time period he played in, I'd assume he played the KG at least a few times, but I haven't studied enough of his games or enough KG games to know for sure.
--Fromper
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Whoops, forgot about good old Morphy... I did study his KG games as well. I have about 40 Morphy games.
Here's what can go wrong if you play the wrong move:
Matschego vs Ernst Falkbeer (1853) "Behind Enemy Lines"
(White erring in the Kieseritsky Attack, 6. Nc3 is not a good idea. 6. d4 d6 7. Nd3 was indicated)
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White:
- Ruy Lopez
- Sicilian Defense: Chekhover variation, Rossolimo variation, 2. ... e6 3. d4
- French Defense: Bogo-Winawer variation, Alekhine-Chatard attack
- Pirc Defense: Byrne variation
Black:
- Ruy Lopez: Modern Steinitz variation
- Two Knights Defense: Fritz variation, Ulvestadt variation
- King's Gambit: Falkbeer Countergambit: Nimzowitsch variation
- Tarrasch Defense
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